Butts direct,kinda.

[KazQ]

Anyone here ever cook pork butts directly over wood?I hear they supposedlee taste better. So i'm thinking of bringing cooker up to temp and then burning wood,say oak and apple in my open firebox,then sliding,,shoveling the burnt down wood thru the firebox baffle and pushing the lit under the pork butt.,now anyone think this will work or i just have too much time and i need a medication change :?

[corndog]

That's kinda how we used to do whole hog (b4 propane). We would have a burn barrel (55 gal drum w/ rebarb running through it) and burn oak down to embers and then shovel the embers on the sides of the cookers, w/ some directly under the hog. The grease dripping from the hog onto the hot embers creates some great sounds and the hogs were always good. I remember standing around the barrel w/ the grown-ups as I was just a kid and then the guys would go around touching the pit seeing where the hot/cool spots were and adjusting the airflow on the ends. Good time they were..good times.

[TB]

I've done a brisket that way onct over charcoal and do chickens like that frequently. I just pull the pan out of my WSM and cook direct. It's a pretty good distance above the fire, though. I didn't notice enough difference on the brisket to do it anymore.

[bigwheel]

Now I would think trying to shove them lit coals through the baffle be sorta like a person trying to stick a pot roast up their nose..or something similar. I tried a similar operation on a few occasions whereas just used the firebox for a burn barrell and then shoveled the coals to the bottom of the upright on the opposite end of the pit to do the cooking. That works fair but unless you got a real big firebox the demand for the coals exceeds the production. Might have to supplement with some charcoal. Thats how I done it anyway.

bigwheel

[KazQ]

Will try saturday,i refuse to use charcoal,they to ignorant! them charcoal makers,i swore after finding the last big rock in my 8kg bag,oh also now these bags are in Kilo's,that be 8 kg=17.6 pounds,now with a few well placed rocks of varying sizes in each bag they can pretty much Kiss my butt.

[Woodman]

WHoa, Kaz is a GOD!

[bigwheel]

Congrats on that promotion my friend. Now whut kind charcoal did you use to have all these problemos? If you dont mind me being nosey of course:) I just trying to figger out which one to be sure and not buy next time.

bigwheel

[KazQ]

Bigwheel the makebelieve and natures own are the ones i cursed,seems years ago they were both fine brands, though i never understood all the hoopla for makebelieve :roll: firstly mapleleaf went crappyier and now natures own is going the same way.Oh i seen at the retailers that they asking $14.00+ for a bag nowadays,can you believe that?
They sneek in that kilo crap also,remember when bags were 20 pounds,now 8 Kg which is 17.6 pounds -a pound of rocks,a pound of unusable pieces,+a pound of dust which =14.6 and i know they don't ever add the .6 part so the crap is a buck a pound! :twisted: Although if you see me standing in line ever with a bag,get a shovel from seasonal and bash me over the head please,never again will i be a sucker.
Woodman did you pass on the contraband to Uncle B?Seems your email ain't accepting emails :?

[bigwheel]

Well guess we got it purty good down here. For them who likes Kingsford Sams always got it shrink wrapped together in two 24 lb bags for somewhere around 10 bucks. Course I aint a big Kingsford fan. Too much ash for me and aint never done squat with it at comp and it been fairly tested repeatedly cuz it so handy and cheap. If I gets serious for real good charcoal for delicate work..only one which remotely passes muster is Ozark Oak brand from Snowball, Arkieville. It now hovering at about 6 bucks for the 10 lb bag at the only two places I knows where to buy it local. Now for heavy duty applications such as direct semi-direct with or with the optional waterpan..the 40 lb bags of mejico mesquite works well. Now would not call it lump..it closer to hacked up trees. Got to worm you way to wholesale grocery company to snag that one. Chefs Choice I think it called. That stuff is how the evil white man is destroying the Sonoran High Desert ya know. Lazzari is also very good if you can locate that. It come from sunny CA I think. Real hard to find around here but somebody say they got it in Jouston.

bigwheel

[rstcso]

They sneek in that kilo crap also,remember when bags were 20 pounds,now 8 Kg which is 17.6 pounds

It all started with the double roll of toilet paper :shock: . Now a pound bag of potato chips is around 3.5oz.

I use kingsford only as a base to start my wood going good, then use only wood, unless I get busy and forget to stoke it and the temps start dropping :roll: . Then I'll load up a chimney with charcoal, put it on the turkey fryer for a few minutes and dump them in the firebox.

[TexLaw]

WHoa, Kaz is a GOD!

I thought I felt Olympus shake. :D


TL

[TexLaw]

Well guess we got it purty good down here. For them who likes Kingsford Sams always got it shrink wrapped together in two 24 lb bags for somewhere around 10 bucks. Course I aint a big Kingsford fan. Too much ash for me and aint never done squat with it at comp and it been fairly tested repeatedly cuz it so handy and cheap. If I gets serious for real good charcoal for delicate work..only one which remotely passes muster is Ozark Oak brand from Snowball, Arkieville. It now hovering at about 6 bucks for the 10 lb bag at the only two places I knows where to buy it local. Now for heavy duty applications such as direct semi-direct with or with the optional waterpan..the 40 lb bags of mejico mesquite works well. Now would not call it lump..it closer to hacked up trees. Got to worm you way to wholesale grocery company to snag that one. Chefs Choice I think it called. That stuff is how the evil white man is destroying the Sonoran High Desert ya know. Lazzari is also very good if you can locate that. It come from sunny CA I think. Real hard to find around here but somebody say they got it in Jouston.

bigwheel

I use Kingsford fairly regularly, and I do just fine with it. It's predictable, which I like, and I don't get the off flavors that others talk about. Of course, if I were every cooking for someone who remarked about those off flavors, I would set the Kingsford aside and use lump.


TL

[david brace]

Never did it directly over open wood. Once i got my first smoker, I' smoke butts like that. So I would not have changed back to an open stick burner cook. I guess it would turn out good, I mean the elements are the same. Enclosed heat, smoke, and some hungry people...

DB

[KazQ]

WHoa, Kaz is a GOD!

I thought I felt Olympus shake. :D


TL

Woodman new that way before i reached a 1000 posts! :lol: :twisted:

[KazQ]

They sneek in that kilo crap also,remember when bags were 20 pounds,now 8 Kg which is 17.6 pounds

It all started with the double roll of toilet paper :shock: . Now a pound bag of potato chips is around 3.5oz.

I use kingsford only as a base to start my wood going good, then use only wood, unless I get busy and forget to stoke it and the temps start dropping :roll: . Then I'll load up a chimney with charcoal, put it on the turkey fryer for a few minutes and dump them in the firebox.

Toilet paper!!!!! Don't get me started on toilet paper! :lol:
I use a bic lighter,jet fuel stove,the kind every airforce pilot has strapped to his butt, and 4 year old cherry,oh and winter boots to start my fires,now when it's really cold i go to swiss chalet,not the worst bbq i ever ate,but that bowl of lemon soup they give ya at the end of the meal is always cold :x